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Mon, 06 Nov 2006
LIGHTBULB MOMENT

Hi All! Hope everyone had a good weekend! I myself just got back from a women's retreat with my church sisters and it was such a blessing! You know, and while I am sure all of you have already come to this conclusion, I think I figured out why the case wreckers et al are destroying our beloved families. Everyday each of us see children who are in desperate need of some type of intervention and yet they remain with or are returned to their families for the abuse and neglect to continue presumably until they themselves escape it and by all the headlines in the national news, it is usually through their commiting attrocities on those who have abused them. How many children end up killing their families, their principles, their priests, fellow students, co-workers, innocents of every shape and size, etc. because they were abused and no one stepped in to stop it? Conversly, how many of our children are taken from loving homes where there are family members who would sacrifice anything to take in their loved ones and yet they are not permitted to do so? Well, my light bulb moment gave me a clear vision of why these things are happening. Our grandchildren are not abused, they do not have any serious difficulties, deformities, challenges, etc. They are four normal, loving, cute, smart, precocious, beautiful. caring, intelligent, have I said gorgeous yet? Well, you get the picture - and your loved ones are just like ours. They left our families in the blessed condition above, and the abuse and neglect has NOW begun in their little lives! They now feel abandoned, unwanted, etc. by the families that they so desperately want to return to and spend their lives with. But, because of their ordinary, age-appropriate behaviors and traits, because they were brought up with manners and the ability to love and care for other living things, they are prized possessions for anyone who wants a ready-made family that comes complete with a monthly bonus! No one wants children that are abused, need special attention, are possibly going to inflict harm or embarrasment on their families and communities! That would be too hard! My God, then they would be earning those bonuses every month, they would have to spend that money on actually taking care of the children instead of putting it toward that new speed boat or recreational vehicle, or new home, or trip to the Bahamas while the kids stay with the nanny (also afforded by the monthly bonus). Sure, they are still taking the newborns who are born to moms with substances in their systems - which I happen to think is an invasion of privacy unless the mom consents to the testing - because they are babies and they are easily adoptable (their problems if any won't show up until after the adoption is final and off of DSS case roles) and they have an instant case of abuse against the parent that most anyone will find proof enough to terminate rights. But even with this, there aren't enough babies to go around so they have to find children who are just as easily adoptable so they come after ours at a rate that is increasing every month. People, it is time to abolish this system! Look at all the stories that have popped up in our groups within just the last month that tell this very story! The only way our counties and case wreckers etc., can continue to get their budgets is to INCREASE the number of adoptions per fiscal year and the only way to do that is to bring in the children who don't need to be fixed! And if they never take in the children who need the help, then their work loads are cut way down. You bring them in, do a little paperwork and a search for a new family, and boom - the file can be signed off on, a cake can be placed in the breakroom for another successful adoption/monthly bonus, and everyone is happy! And yes, as one poster recently stated, we have let this happen! Partly because as Americans we did not want to believe that this is now the custom, not the exception and partly because it has fallen on deaf ears for so long when we have complained that we do not know individually how to stop it. We cannot let this continue, for the simple fact that it will escalate by definition in the current laws! More and more families are having to live on below poverty incomes, more and more parents are having to work full-time in order to try to pay the minimum bills, and hence, more and more of our precious children are going to be picked up at school by DSS, DCF, whoever because mom and dad were a few minutes late to pick them up because the boss wasn't done talking. Or they will be picked up at the hospital because the doctors think the child is being abused because they fell off the backyard jungle gym and broke their arm. Marches have been held on Washington for many years for a number of different causes. They have brought National attention to the matters that they are marching for and in some instances, have changed the situation at every level of government. We need to do something NOW! I for one am not willing to keep posting here, to write Dr. Phil which I have done, write to Katie Couric which I have done, write to my legislators and other government officials which I have done ad nauseum because they do not see me and can easily ignore my pleas when all they have is a piece of paper with a bunch of words and exclamation points and tear stains! Demonstrating in front of the local offices is not enough because your county does not get embarrased when my county has a demonstration and visa versa. We have got to come together as a community or enraged, angry, desperate yet for the most part law-abiding citizens and bring this to the attention of our entire country at one time. It will be difficult to ignore the many pictures of innocent children on posters broadcast across the country by the news media, it will be nearly impossible to argue the point of 'in the child's best interest' when there are thousands, perhaps millions of normal, innocent children being loved from afar by banners, quilts, t-shirts, etc. on the White House lawn or at the Lincoln Memorial or wherever. You can all think I am just ranting and raving or venting, or whatever, but honestly, has anything we have done up to now worked? Many of us cannot afford an attorney but could somehow get to D.C. if we wanted to bad enough! I am tired of writing and getting sympathy and much appreciated advice and giving the same. Yes, as a hurting community we need support and advice and a shoulder to cry on, but what we all need is for these people to get out of our lives and the lives of our fellow citizens who have yet to get that knock on the door or smack across the face. We have got to stand together as one hurting, fed-up, fired-up, educated, willing to take a road trip, bunch of loving realtives who demand change and the return of our family members. You guys can take it from here, you know where I am, but I cannot take any of this sitting down (typing) any longer. At this point, I have nothing to lose but my self-respect and possibly the future respect of my family and particularly my grandchildren when they someday ask me why I didn't come get them - save them - protect them! I am going to march - who is willing to come with me and when? jusnanale28
Posted 20:52

9 comments


rights to be heard
Hello! I talked with Sandra this evening for along time about another matter that I have with DHR. But I have a friend that has been done wrong with our local DHR. She raises her granddaughter. The little girl is a mongoloid, forgive me for the spelling, but she is the most cheerful and high spirited little girl I know. In September the little girl was taken from her grandmother. They say that she told her teacher at school that she had been sexual assaulted. No one went and questioned the grandmother about this. You and I both know that schools can turn nothing into something if they want to. Children pay for the misuse of their actions more than adults do. I feel like the DHR office did not do enough investigating into the matter before they took action. DHR is all about the money. They could care less for our children. I would like for you to pray for this family. They deserve to be together. This grandmother took this child home from the hospital. She knows no other life but the life she has lived with her. Her grandmother would never put her in danger. She loves that child more than life itself. Something needs to be done about how the system is run in MARSHALL COUNTY. Thank you Stacy


for love of joshua
everything that you have said is true there arent enough babies to go around thats why they took mine and dont wont to give him back i am the mother of joshua sandra carrolls grandchild everyday my heart brokes for my child how dosent even know who i am i just dont understand the system i was a good mother i never neglected my child or lift him in a dirty diper maybe sometimes i couldnt afford dipers but is that any reason for my child to get taken away. Ive been reading all this stories and the way the government has treated our familys is sicking but the worst part about it is you just feel like theres nothing you can do! you just have to do what ever they say because they have our children holding them over our heads like some prize you have to win but know matter how hard you try you just cant seem to win. I know of all people how frustating it is but all i can say is when you get down just think of your children and that one day you will be reunighted and they will forgive you for what ever mistakes youve made and while there not with you they knop you love them and are thinking of them one day the system will change all its going to take is some time and for everyone to stop being scared and stick together. If we love our children we have to fight for them!! If we dont who will thanks for listening emily


concerning cps reform
This editorial was taken from recent post in yahoo group. It is worth reading and oh so true. Too Many children left behind. Please see what I offer as a soultion to help with these issues. "Did you know that Foster/Adopt Parents don't do counseling before they take a child in? Foster/Adopt Parents don't take a psychological test either. I have noticed that in the data banks that there are still over 10 thousand children waiting for adoption and all over the age of 5 for the past two years plus (Texas). With this I have noticed several sites of people pursuing to adopt babies but not older children. I find this discouraging that so many people that can not have children of their own by natural ways do not choose to take on a child in the system over the age of 5. I have found many of these children suffer from severe Detachment and Emotional damage, yet the State provides no constant intensive Emotional Health services. The children at best see a therapist once a or twice a month which doesn't resolve their abandoment issues nor their anger and hurt issues of being placed not in just one home but several homes over the course of a year. I have first hand knowledge these kids are left in ophanages for a few months than transfered to a home than in a couple months later transferred again. They have no stability nor any Emotional help to deal with the dramatic changes in their lives. At these times these children show signs of either complete withdrawn or complete abusive natures. Than alot of them age out of the system and don't thrive to become caring productive emotional stable adults. More than half of the girls end up pregant and living with abusive partners. More than half of most of these children end up on the streets or jail. In order for better outcomes and futures for these kids we must stop the constant cycle of rolling them over to new foster homes all the time. Most of the children with siblings don't or to far away to see their siblings. This is a shame because the only bond these kids have left is severed due to lack of good Foster Parents. I encourage Foster Parenting but doing a basic backround check, some classes and a home study doesn't rectify the problem. These Foster Parents need not take kids in hopes of getting a young child to raise as their own. These Foster Parents like natural parents should be in Counseling sessions to insure they have the mentality and good emotional health to truely understand that if they take these kids that are awaiting for Adoption can be theirs with alot of hard work in participating in Emotional COunseling before and after the child is placed with them until the child's symptons of oppression or aggression are resolved in order to gain a bond to help keep the children placed in on place and possibly adopted by that Foster Family. This is where our system is Failing Children. They place the kids in where they can but the matches are not always to the children's needs unless it's the needs of phyisical. Than these Foster/Adopt Parents tend to these kids with no clue what is wrong with them, because CPS never gives them the gist of the problems prior to removals or termination. CPS doesn't give much history on these children from the family, schools, parents, nor any other source of these kids past. The kids come in as vicitims but have learned from their "abusers" how to react or act on different forms of abuse but counseling is never given extensively to help curve what these child have learned from their former environments. With this these children get around other children just like them and the destructive behavior of these kids is encouraged by their peers with like problems. Thus these kids never stop the cycle and as adults repeat or become worse than their "abusers." First thing taught in Child Psychology is that Children Model and repeat everything they hear and see. So if bad behavior is being reinforced by the abuser for many years, than an other child is helping reinforce bad behavior, as possibly well as a Foster/Adopt parent (knowing they don't do couseling or any testing prior to becoming Surgorate) end up encouraging bad behavior, and the child has no stablity with one home for more than 2 years with only a couple counseling sessions if that to help with behavior than EVERY CHILD IN FOSTER CARE is going to FAIL in adulthood. Not just that most children in Foster Care stop Thriving. Yes, Family placement would be nice but CPS doesn't always want to do that so they don't really search. Sorry it's the Truth. Some kids come from homes that had minor problems but CPS had the judges convinced the Parent was ill prepared to take the child home so Termination was granted after 12 months. Than there's The incentive of keeping their jobs because as of 2011 these Caseworkers will have no job because it is going to private sector and they aren't going with it. Than there's the financial bonus to get kids adopted. Well, getting termination is easy in Texas so many judges love thinking they are protecting children by doing this.,but getting adopted for children over 5 is a curse to these kids. Why can't we get more Funding, not for Adoption or Foster Care, but for more intensive Family based Services for children of different severities of problems? Such as all Services provided to Parents in both Removal and Family based are the same. Why can't we tailor these services for Family based services with more intensive services of 2 to 3 times a week counseling with children and children by themselves. Parenting Aids in homes twice a week. A big brother/big Sister outreach program required to do by these families to put more intervention in to see problems of parenting and for the kids to have someone who they can focus on when there are more than on child in the house. My goal is to put these into effect. We have a request going through to push a 1 year program for Nurses to assist low income/single parent families for the first year of an infants life to help prevent homelessness, abortions, joblessness, malnurishement, and fatalities of infants by the Pro-Life organization in Houston. I believe an half an ounce of prevention leads to a pound of cure. I believe my suggestions are Prevention with some needed immediate Cure." Please remember I was grabbing their attention in hopes to put more strain on Foster/Adopt situation in hopes they would see alternatives as a start to correct what CPS has done to kids in the system and a more wish solution to ensure less removals. I did it from a Psychological point of view because I found in reality it is more effect than Blazing guns of personal opinions of what we want RIGHT now. This was my way to help bring in solutions to get more kids into Family homes, less removals with more surveliance (still would rather have the surveliance than not live with my kids), and more help for the kids already trapped in the system. We don't trust the Government and the Government doesn't trust us. We need to find Solution with Prevention soon. My TPR has been pushed back to Feb 12, 2007. I haven't seen my son since July 25. I haven't seen my baby because of this since June 2006, he lives with his father. I have contacted a few key people to help me. In reality my children are suffering and right now I would take 24/7 surveliance any day than to be seperated like this from them so long especially when they have now tried 3 times to get this Doctor in to testify against me and he hasn't appeared. DA ask for the new date. Yes, the rabbit hole is as deep for me as it is for most of us. Yet I still go on and still find balance to find a CURE to help EVERY KID in this Nation.


Gastapo Govntmnt Who is it???
Presented by Lisa from Yahoo group. Can this really be the nation we live in today??? Recently, I was quite shocked to learn that there is a nation, in these modern days time, where the citizens are threatened into submission, as millions of children are ripped from their homes, tortured, exploited, abused and sold into a life of slavery. Enraged, I just could not fathom how any government could allow such cruel, and inhumane practises to continue. So as is my nature, and to validate my own belief that such evil could not truely exist, I began to do some research of my own. I was appalled to discover that nation's government is not only very much aware of what is occurring, but is also very deeply involved in and actually provides the financial funding that is motivating such heinous crimes against humanity. The more I research, the more my own beliefs are being shattered, and the more I feel as if my own sanity is off balanced. The statistics of just how many children are actually being kidnapped, tortured, isolated from their own families and customs, are being sold into the never ending darkness of slavery, and just how much money that nation's government spends aiding and abetting these incidents of kidnapping is quite staggering. Every God Given Right that I have always taken for granted I am now trying to protect. The Rights we all are given under our own laws and our own constitution, such as, The Freedom of Speech and Thought, The Liberty to pursue our own Happiness, are all absent for these people, and dignity is stripped from them on a daily basis. Subjected to Illegal raids and searches, false accusations and / or imprisonment for crimes that never occurred, such tragedies play a major role in their lives. Once this nation was strong and proud, its citizens were once esttemed brave world leaders, but today this nation is one of shame, weakened by the loss of hopes, dreams, and ambitions, and its people are prisoners of terror, seemingly bound and chained, defeated by their own fear and helplessness. So, to satisfy my own curiosity, I now pose a few questions to general public of this great nation and of this great state. Could you even imagine any of us just accepting and / or allowing our own government spending 120 BILLION dollars every year to finance such kidnappings of millions of children from their homes? Would we truely believe that there was any legal or moral justification for our government to spend 61 MILLION dollars a year to assist in the enslavement, torture, abuse, and occasional death of our own innocent children? Would we, as American Citizens, even PERMIT our government to use tax dollars from our own hard work to finance such deeds of child slavery? Would we even support a government that is involved in the destruction of the American Dream, and the cause of the genocide of American families, of family life? With my heart heavy, and with a guilty conscience I strongly advise each and every American to conduct his/her own investigation and research. Information and awareness are the very necessities of self preservation. and in conclusion, the identity of the Nation I speak of, quite sadly, is our own... UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


I hate CPS OR DFS or What ever they call them selves
i had 4 children they were taken by the department government bs. they left my son out of the temprory order and left him in my care, but they took my 3 little girls. my youngest who is now 11 has been adopted by my brother n sister in law and i do gert to see her on rare occassions, the oldest girls are out of the system now thank gawd , and we have tried to resume a relationship . it has been a nightmare for all of us but as time goes it has healed sum hurt from my older girls n son but fo rthe 11 year old . when i do see her she says " Momma i want to come home " and it tears me apart does anyoen have any helpful suggestions to heal my heart ?? i was on probation when they took they my children and the case worker as well as the PO worked together so that i was arrested at the time of important court hearing, and the case worker had previousisly been a Probation officer i found out after the fact. when the court granted the state my children shortly there after both the case worker and my probation officer were no longer working in the " respective departments" bu tit was too late by then to do anything
Posted by Ree


Why are these children dying?
Why are these children dying? They are the stories no one wants to hear -- children, abused and neglected, some to the point of death.Many of them must leave their families to go into shelters or foster care. Often these children leave their homes with only a garbage bag to hold their clothes and favorite toys, the most are routinely tossed from one temporary placement to another, often ten or twenty times during their most formative, vulnerable years.This is the continuing saga of crimes against Foster children. Children are dying, inside and out... State cannot say how many foster children die each year, even though a state law that took effect in 2004 requires counties to release the names, dates of birth, and dates of death for these children. The new law is not being followed by all. There's no way to get more information without going to the courts,it's extraordinarily difficult for the public to learn who in the system is dying and why. There is absolutely no reason why an advocacy group, a newspaper, an elected official, or any other concerned member of the public should have to go to court to find out what happened when a foster youth dies. The Department of Social Services keeps all names confidential .Imagine -- our state's most vulnerable children, betrayed by a state system that was supposed to protect them -- and we have no idea who they are. This page is in memory of children died of neglect or abuse while under the care of the social service agencies! Many died suspiciously or from neglect. Most of their lives and deaths went unnoticed. Until now. But you likely never heard of them. The deaths of these children -- and what government agencies did or didn't do to save their lives -- Even when they die, their stories are rarely told. See more.... Too many children have died as a result of wrong decisions by CPS. If this had happened in our home we would be in jail right now, but government workers are still free and what is most worse they are still working on the same position and they are being paid for with ours tax dollars. With power comes responsibility and accountability, which most officials ignore.Most Americans don't even know, or are too busy to care, as long as it's not happening to them.It is traumatic and heart-breaking.The biggest tragedy of it all is that WE choose not to see it, pretending it doesn't exist. Those Children Were Failed by the System ! Please, don't wait for new name on this page. Please sign PETITION http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/98617334 7 The only way to create change is to bring it to the public's attention. It is about the children! Please hear the childrens' cry ! http://suncanaa.com/ I am just one voice. Please help my voice be heard so we can prevent any more needless tragedies. Please spread the word and forward this email to your friends and family members. Please Remember Us http://protected-to-death-by- cps.memory-of.com/ 


NEVER GIVE UP
EVRYONE I know how hard this is, but please DONT believe its ever over, you have to get militant style on there a** and give it right back to them, Learn the laws, and people, learn to APPEAL, always youve got ways to fight back, there are lawyers and legislators who care and are demanding answers and changes, but if we dont ban together and everyone be active, nothing will get done. Please come join us on http://familycourtactivists.ning.com/ Thanks, BellasMom06
Posted by BellasMom06


Yellow Ribbon's for children Kidnapped by DCYF
I am hoping that all parent's and grandparent's whose children have been taken by DCYF will join me in displaying big yellow ribbon's on their property for each child taken by DCYF. Iv'e had a big yellow bow up since my granddaughter was taken three years ago and put one up for my grandson 2 1/2 years ago.My neighbor's asked why I put up the bow's. I told them my grandchildren were kidnapped by DCYF and the bow's are for them and won't be removed until the kid's are returned. I am hoping everyone all over the country will join me. Please display a bow for each child. Maybe, some how, some way people will listen to us. When everyone see's all the bow's displayed, maybe we'll get the help we need. Please join me. Our children's and grandchildren's lives are at stake. Dorothy Knightly Nashua, NH


Never Give Up-I didnt and won!!!
I know how it feels to fight against courts and not have my child in my arms. Not because I was accused of neglect or abuse, but because my son visited my brother in Alabama and filed a petition in court stating that I didnt want him. What was supposed to be a vacation turned into a nightmare. I live in rhode Island never lived in Alabama and will never return unless its to change the law that allowed my son to be illegally kidnapped. For over a year and thousands of dollars me and my other children fought the court in Shelby County for my sons return. He was not even a resident of Rhode Island. But yet how the courts are set up is you have to wait for your court date to prove this. If I didnt have the money to get to Alabama and stay in a hotel I would have never gotten my child home. But I did although I cannot get back the time it took for his return to his birth state rhode island, or the emotional damage that was caused. He is home. Now I want the law changed. Alabama is the only state in United States that has this law. Time for Alabama to catch up with the rest of the world. If you know anyone who can make legislation in Alabama please please give me their names may be fighting from Rhode Island but I have a big voice. No government is going to put my family though this and not change. We had no DCYF involvement nothing he was just kidnapped by Alabama. How scary is that.


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